Legislature(2001 - 2002)

04/09/2001 01:35 PM Senate HES

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          SB  86-TEACHER EMPLOYMENT &  SUBJECT EXPERTISE                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN asked  Senator Pete Kelly, sponsor of SB 86, if the                                                            
amendment  before  the  committee  has been  incorporated  into  the                                                            
proposed committee substitute.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY said it was not.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN  asked if, regarding the provision  that allows the                                                            
substitution  of  five  years  of work  experience  in  the  subject                                                            
matter,  any type of  experience in  that subject  that is not  work                                                            
related would apply.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY  said he would not object to deleting  the word "work"                                                            
on page  2, line 19,  so that five  years of  any experience  in the                                                            
subject matter is required.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN referred to Sec.  3(d) and asked if Senator  Kelly                                                            
would object to  using the term "experienced educator"  instead of a                                                            
"tenured teacher" (page 3, line 10).                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY  said the idea of the mentor, although  he agrees with                                                            
it, did not come  from him.  The idea of a tenured  teacher may have                                                            
been used because it assumes a certain level of experience.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN pointed  out that an experienced teacher may not be                                                            
tenured in  a certain district.    She said  the sectional  analysis                                                            
says that Section  5 pertains to teachers coming off  retirement and                                                            
lay off status and requires  them to have practiced within the prior                                                            
five years.  She asked for an explanation.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY said he thought that provision is in existing law.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BRUCE  JOHNSON,  Deputy  Commissioner   of  the  Department  of                                                            
Education and Early Development  (DOEED), said the only thing he can                                                            
think of is that teachers  are required, when renewing certificates,                                                            
to have  six additional credit  hours over  a five-year period.   He                                                            
said he is not sure whether that provision refers to the mentor.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN indicated  that an explanation  of that  provision                                                            
was included in  the sectional analysis, even though  that provision                                                            
is in current  law.  She moved to  remove the word "work"  from page                                                            
2, line 19 (Amendment  1), and to substitute on page  3, line 9, the                                                            
word "tenured"  with the  word "experienced"  (Amendment 2).   There                                                            
being no objection, the  motion to adopt Amendments 1 and 2 carried.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN  stated that he has  two minor amendments to  propose.                                                            
The first (Amendment 3)  is on page 2, line 16, and is to insert the                                                            
words "or  national" after  "regional".   He informed the  committee                                                            
that while most  colleges are accredited by a regional  association,                                                            
some  are  accredited  by a  national  association  and  the  Alaska                                                            
Commission   on  Postsecondary  Education   (ACPE)  considers   both                                                            
associations to be comparable.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN asked if there was objection to Amendment 3.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS asked Senator Leman to explain his intent.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN said that  inserting that language will make sure that                                                            
all qualified  institutions are covered  and that both associations                                                             
have comparable standards.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objection, Amendment 3 was adopted.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN moved to  adopt Amendment  4, in  which the word  "or                                                            
minored" would be inserted  after the word "majored" on page 2, line                                                            
18.   He  said that  a person  could  minor in  a subject  and  have                                                            
considerably  more expertise  in  an area  than he or  she may  have                                                            
under a typical education degree.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN GREEN  asked if a minor requires 18 hours  of coursework.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 178                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. JOHNSON  said that a minor usually  consists of a minimum  of 18                                                            
hours of coursework.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR DAVIS  asked Dr.  Johnson his opinion  of Amendment  4.  She                                                            
noted that many  teachers already teach in their minor  area but the                                                            
focus was toward teaching in the area they majored in.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DR.  JOHNSON said  DOEED  has  concerns about  this  bill  regarding                                                            
having individuals  in the  classroom who are  not making a  general                                                            
commitment  to  teacher education.    DOEED  would prefer  that  the                                                            
individual  be enrolled in a teacher  education program at  the same                                                            
time the individual  is teaching for many reasons,  not the least of                                                            
which  is that  evidence  in  other states  strongly  suggests  that                                                            
teacher  education  preparation   programs  really  help  support  a                                                            
subject matter  specialist capacity  to be successful over  the long                                                            
term.   Those teachers  tend to  stay in their  assignments  longer.                                                            
Knowing content  is an important ingredient of teaching  but knowing                                                            
how to work with students  is also important.  DOEED does not object                                                            
to allowing  these people to enter  as teachers but it would  prefer                                                            
that they  immediately be  enrolled in a  teacher education  program                                                            
that is similar  to the Masters in Art of Teaching  so that they can                                                            
receive  a  teaching  credential  in  a one  year  period  of  time.                                                            
Regarding the  question of whether teachers should  be able to teach                                                            
in a field  they minored  in, he doesn't think  that would be  a big                                                            
problem for  DOEED. Again, DOEED would  rather have the focus  be on                                                            
supporting  the credential  aspect.   He  pointed  out the  district                                                            
would be  making the decision  on whether a  person with a  minor is                                                            
qualified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN  noted  that  a  person  might  have  a  major  in                                                            
chemistry  and a minor in  physics, in which  case teaching  physics                                                            
would not be foreign.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further objection  to Amendment 4, CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN                                                            
announced it was adopted.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  moved Amendment 5, by Senator Kelly,  which reads as                                                            
follows.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                       A M E N D M E N T  5                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
OFFERED IN THE SENATE                            BY SENATOR KELLY                                                               
     TO:  CSSB 86(   ), Draft Version "L"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 23:                                                                                                                
     Delete "and"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, line 26, following "certificate":                                                                                       
     Insert "; and                                                                                                              
                (4)  completed, within the two years before                                                                     
     beginning  to teach  as a  subject-matter  expert teacher,  the                                                            
     six-week  introductory course to prepare subject-matter  expert                                                            
     teachers for the classroom"                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Page 2, following line 30:                                                                                                      
     Insert a new subsection to read:                                                                                           
          "(c)  The department shall establish the requirements for                                                             
     a  six-week   introduction  to  teaching  course   for  persons                                                            
     interested  in  becoming  subject-matter  expert  teachers.   A                                                            
     school  district or  regional educational  attendance area  may                                                            
     not employ  a person as a subject-matter  expert teacher  under                                                            
     this section  unless the person has successfully  completed the                                                            
     course within the  two years immediately preceding the person's                                                            
     initial  hire by the  school district  or regional educational                                                             
     attendance  area or unless  the person  has been employed  as a                                                            
     subject-matter  expert  teacher in another  school district  or                                                            
     regional  educational  attendance  area  immediately  preceding                                                            
     employment  in  the school  district  or  regional educational                                                             
     attendance area."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Reletter the following subsections accordingly.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Page 3, line 11, following ".":                                                                                                 
     Insert "At the end of the subject-matter expert teacher's                                                                  
first year of  teaching, the mentor, the teacher,  and the principal                                                            
of  the  school  in  which  the subject-matter   expert  teacher  is                                                            
teaching  shall  meet  for  an  evaluation   of  the  strengths  and                                                            
weaknesses  of the  teacher's performance  as a  teacher during  the                                                            
past year."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KELLY explained  that Amendment  5 incorporates,  into  the                                                            
qualifications for a subject  matter teacher, a six-week pre-course.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRWOMAN  GREEN asked if the pre-course  would be required  before                                                            
the person begins.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KELLY said  it would take  place before  the person  begins                                                            
teaching.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN  asked   if  the  name  "six-week  introduction"   is                                                            
something that  has already been developed by the  University and is                                                            
known or whether that is the expected length of the class.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY said it is not something that has been developed.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN asked if  a person could compress that course and take                                                            
it in half the time if need be.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KELLY said he had  the same thought.  He asked, because four                                                            
of the  members are also  on the Senate  Finance Committee,  whether                                                            
this amendment  could be addressed  by the Senate Finance  Committee                                                            
to give him more time to work on it.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN asked for  unanimous consent to withdraw Amendment 5.                                                            
There being no objection, Amendment 5 was withdrawn.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being no further  discussion or questions, SENATOR LEMAN moved                                                            
CSSB 86(HES) from committee  with individual recommendations and its                                                            
accompanying  fiscal note.   There  being no  objection, the  motion                                                            
carried.                                                                                                                        

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